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Over the summer of 2002 I was lucky enough to experience the skyspace at PS1 in New York, then drive out to Pittsburgh to see the Turrell exhibition at the Mattress Factory, which was mindblowing to say the least. I'd be curious to what others have seen (since his work doesn't necessarily travel well).
It's so cool that there's a Turrell tribe! I'd happily go dig some dirt in Arizona if it would get Roden Crater completed sooner :)
It's so cool that there's a Turrell tribe! I'd happily go dig some dirt in Arizona if it would get Roden Crater completed sooner :)
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Re: what Turrell installations have you seen?
Wed, April 14, 2004 - 10:20 PMI would do just about anything to see Roden Crater open. I unfortunatly have not been able to see any of his work with my own two. I found out about him through numerous articles written on him and have only seen photographs. I'm concidering taking a bit of a trip this summer to go see as much of his work as possible. -
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Wed, April 14, 2004 - 10:58 PMTry to get to Seattle to see the new skyspace if you can. Watching the sky change from dusk to night over 90 minutes or so is extraordinary. When I saw it at PS1 in NYC, it was a packed room of people just staring up at the sky in silence for an hour and a half. Half the fun was watching people open the door into the space in the middle of it all, staring in bewilderment at this room full of people staring at a hole in the ceiling, then shrugging their shoulders and quietly backing out, totally confused. At that point you realize that everyone in the room who has devoted the time to the space has a completely different perception of color and depth than anyone outside, and you realize how powerful the piece is.
Not sure if there's a site that lists where he's being exhibited in the future since the rodencrater site is MIA and jamesturrell.com has disappeared. Haven't seen anything in Artforum lately either....there was an article on him in the LA Times magazine a couple of weeks back, as he built a private skyspace for someone up in the LA canyons.... -
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Thu, April 15, 2004 - 1:30 AMI was fortunate enought to see a smallish exhibit at a local museum. The installation featured a room filled with this glowing blue light coming from behind a large squarish bit in the center of the wall. The light totally filled the room and the effect was mesmerizing to say the least. It was like instant trance state. Unfortunately, the transfixion was lost on those around me and my awe was disrupted by raucous exclamations of, "What IS this? I don't get it. Is it DOING anything?" Frustration. Almost as frustrating as when someone stepped across the clearly marked lip of the installation and tried to touch the aforemention squarish bit. I almost lost it. But the piece was amazing nonetheless. -
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Thu, April 15, 2004 - 9:45 AMOne of my favorite easter sayings goes along the lines of, "The difference between the east and west is that the east can sit in an empty room in perfect contentment, where as the west can not."
If people aren't seeing action, its not worth looking at.
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Thu, April 15, 2004 - 10:04 PMI definitely agree! Oy. Those kids were horrendous.
I saw the exhibit at the Sonoma County Museum.
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Fri, April 16, 2004 - 11:04 AMThey definitely get people worked up.
at the Mattress Factory exhibit I was in the lobby when an elderly woman got off the elevator, stopped at the reception desk and announced "This was the WORST EXHIBIT EVER!" before she stormed out.
There was some jackass at the PS1 space who decided it would be fun to throw pennies through the opening. He got embarrassed by about 75 people staring at him and left.
Or - there was that moment when a bird suddenly flew by the opening causing the entire room to gasp, then start laughing at themselves :)
The only place where everyone seemed pretty cool with it was the Seattle exhibition. -
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Fri, April 16, 2004 - 12:59 PMI don't blame people for whats been so deeply ingrained in their minds by an ignorant society, Its just pretty sad and dissapointing. Also, I think sculptors are received much less easily as artists than someone who holds a paintbrush. Especially if the work itself pushes the boundries of conventional ideas on HOW art should be viewed (museums etc)which Turrell's work seems to do. -
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Sun, April 18, 2004 - 11:18 PMand just to add a little something extra to this conversation. Can we have a small tribe golf clap round for Amber and that amazing photo of her and an INCREDIBLY lucky cow? I mean... YEH BABY!!! Now THATS how I like my burger. SMILING!! -
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Sun, April 18, 2004 - 11:29 PMYE-HA, you aint lived till you've been shoulder deep in somthings ass. -
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Wed, May 12, 2004 - 8:53 AMI was lucky enough to get in to see Rodin Crater last fall. I think I have some pics I can post. It was a wonderful experience. -
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Wed, May 12, 2004 - 10:21 AMYES YES, PLEASE POST THEM!! How did you get in? I thought the crater wasn't open yet. -
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Wed, May 12, 2004 - 4:36 PMPosted some of the pics in the gallery. -
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Thu, May 13, 2004 - 2:11 AMdamn nice pixs! charting a coarse their very soon. when is the public opening? i've been following it so long it has honestly dropped from my radar for a while... and help is appreciated. i see the new site is under construction...
peace.
bv.
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Thu, June 10, 2004 - 7:30 PMTim! How did you get in?
I have a friend who lives out in the checkerboard land not far from the crater and it is breath-taking, especially at magic hour.
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Mon, November 22, 2004 - 11:23 PMRoden Crater is not open. Only people who are able to travel there without the fear of a trespassing charge are able to visit it. It is not finished yet, and it is still an amazing work of magic...Er I mean art... There were rumors that it is really a spaceport for alien visitors, but I doubt Mr. Turell would admit to that.
The people that have talked about going there have unfortunately missed the part about it not being open, and appearantly don't have the discretion to keep their tresspasses to themselves. -
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Wed, March 23, 2005 - 7:48 PMJust read the post from Allan...
I don't think Mr Terrell gives a damn whether people come and go as long as no trace is left. People who visit there know it's value as artwork and are respectful to leave it as we found it.
Who wants to wait until the roads are handsomely paved and there's a giftshop set up for your touristing pleasure? You'll have to dodge winnebagos and complaining tourists! The best way to see it is Edward Abbey style; walk up, enjoy, leave it as you found it.
By the way, Terrell knows people visit. Humans are curious. If he didn't want people in then he'd find a way to keep them out or he'd put up more direct KEEP OUT signage. You have to know someone who knows where it is to find it in the first place.
Give people a little more credit than "apparently don't have the discretion...."
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Wed, April 19, 2006 - 1:03 AMIt is rather hard to trespass. if you look at topographic maps, you will see there is only one enterance in. To get through the gate you would have to snip wires that are so highly strung, or walk, miles to get to the front. It is art that will stand the test of time...
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Sat, March 24, 2007 - 6:56 PMIn 2004 I saw an installation at the Chicago Museum of Art. I was walking by canvasses hung on walls, going around corners; seeing more - just walking. So one room had a single canvas on the far wall. It was odd, but it glowed blue, and maybe pulsated, or something. I went into the installation space (the viewing part), entering into it just as if it were a small room reserved for this eerily compelling monochrome canvas.
I was alone and undisturbed, and I approached it slowly. I was just about three feet from what my perception informed me was a blue painting on a wall, when I felt an air current come directly out of the picture! It was yet a subliminal register. Then, my depth perception gradually inquired further into the phenomenon in front of me, in processes which I do not understand, and ultimately described for my flummoxed brain a room, bathed in low, ambient light, and I was standing at a portal, not before a hanging work of art. I was blown away.
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Wed, June 30, 2004 - 5:37 PMI've seen the installation at SFMOMA as well as the much more extensive Mattress Factory one. I was thrilled out of my mind to discover that my home town has such a goldmine of Turrell that I can visit whenever I go back.
I didn't have chance to experience the skyspace item in Pgh., though, at least not throughout the day and evening, but it's amazing enough just sitting in it and contemplating the sky in midafternoon. Next time I'm home, I think I'll go over at different times of the day and hopefully evening.
The last time I was in the installation in SFMOMA, I was on a first date with a heathen who clearly thought its primary quality was providing a dark space in which to consider molesting me. Feh.
Wendy
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Wed, June 30, 2004 - 8:37 PMHi, Tim! I'll bet we know the same amazing person, at some unnamed ranch which has a view of the crater out their front door!
I was fortunate to go there twice, courtesy of you-know-who, in 2002 and 2003. The pic I posted was from 2002, when we went after dusk, and were just 11 people. making my way in the long tunnels, in total darkness and silence, was an experience like none other.
The approach to that first room (I can't find a reference to its name...I just call it the stairway to heaven) starts out in total blackness. You cannot see ahead. The tunnel is on an incline up to the space, and eventually, by the time one's eyes have adjusted to the dark, and realize they can REALLY see nothing, there appears a lighter-than-dark spot. Even on a moonless night, the chamber collects enough starlight to reflect it off the walls, and indicate something. But you don't know what it is, until you get very close. in the space -- BOOM -- the dark sky jumps. Surreal, incredible, beyond comprehension.
I went in the afternoon the next year...with a crowd. While those in the crowd proclaimed it the most amazing space they had ever been in, I had the dark experience to compare it to, and found the experience less intense than in the dark and quiet.
On the dark journey, one of the people had forgotten his jacket outside (which you get to by going through). He went back, in the dark. He had such a trust in the fluidity of the walls and floor, that he ran the entire way. In the total darkness. We stood outside, hearing his footsteps resounding into the distance. And then, more widely spaced and growing louder as he ran back, towards the outside, with long strides. In the blackness. The trust that the installation engenders was quite unexpected, and heightens the sense of everything.
I still remember it vividly.
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Thu, March 3, 2005 - 1:30 PMI was fortunate enough to spend most of the day at Turrell's crater in the sand dunes at Kijkduin, near Den Haag. No people, just sea birds, and me lying on my back in the middle of the crater for hours. Amazing experience, although I was totally disoriented once I got up again!
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Thu, March 24, 2005 - 8:41 PMI've seen two installations of Turrells work. The first was in LA at the Temporary. I walked into the room to see a blue rectangle on the far wall. I'd never seen anything so beautiful, loud yet silent vibrating yet still in my life. I couldn't figure out how it was there and as I looked from the side to see how it was on the wall a friend put her hand right through it. My life was changed for ever. The second was his airplane hanger series and I think I saw that at Ace Gallery in LA. You could feel the heat coming in from the implied outside. I never had a piece of art put me in such a specific place with so few elements.
I can't wait for the new deyoung museum to open in SF. They are including one of his pieces in their permanent collection.